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	<title>Comments on: Who Can Tell The Singer From The Song?</title>
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		<title>By: Guillermo Thavichith</title>
		<link>http://www.thecontrarianmedia.com/2009/07/who-can-tell-the-singer-from-the-song/comment-page-1/#comment-11403</link>
		<dc:creator>Guillermo Thavichith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Oct 2010 23:09:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Beyonce is an amazing singer live. And to do that on top of tripping the light fantastic and yet sound great she&#039;s truly got gift. She is one of the hottest (possibly the best) PERFORMERS of our generation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Beyonce is an amazing singer live. And to do that on top of tripping the light fantastic and yet sound great she&#8217;s truly got gift. She is one of the hottest (possibly the best) PERFORMERS of our generation.</p>
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		<title>By: Stephanie C. Brown</title>
		<link>http://www.thecontrarianmedia.com/2009/07/who-can-tell-the-singer-from-the-song/comment-page-1/#comment-4761</link>
		<dc:creator>Stephanie C. Brown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 21:47:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you.  I am a songwriter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you.  I am a songwriter.</p>
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		<title>By: Casey Rae-Hunter</title>
		<link>http://www.thecontrarianmedia.com/2009/07/who-can-tell-the-singer-from-the-song/comment-page-1/#comment-4648</link>
		<dc:creator>Casey Rae-Hunter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 23:13:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Only had DN in my guypod. 

Either way, I&#039;m ashamed at lapse in comprehension here. [hangs head.]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Only had DN in my guypod. </p>
<p>Either way, I&#8217;m ashamed at lapse in comprehension here. [hangs head.]</p>
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		<title>By: Terry B</title>
		<link>http://www.thecontrarianmedia.com/2009/07/who-can-tell-the-singer-from-the-song/comment-page-1/#comment-4645</link>
		<dc:creator>Terry B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 12:24:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Double Nickels will suffice, but it&#039;s off &#039;What Makes a Man Start Fires?&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Double Nickels will suffice, but it&#8217;s off &#8216;What Makes a Man Start Fires?&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Casey</title>
		<link>http://www.thecontrarianmedia.com/2009/07/who-can-tell-the-singer-from-the-song/comment-page-1/#comment-4644</link>
		<dc:creator>Casey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Jul 2009 14:45:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, damn. 

It&#039;s Double Nickels on my drive to NC, then.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, damn. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s Double Nickels on my drive to NC, then.</p>
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		<title>By: Neil Cleary</title>
		<link>http://www.thecontrarianmedia.com/2009/07/who-can-tell-the-singer-from-the-song/comment-page-1/#comment-4643</link>
		<dc:creator>Neil Cleary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Jul 2009 11:39:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Missing a Minutemen reference on your own music blog, Casey? Really? Don&#039;t be that guy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Missing a Minutemen reference on your own music blog, Casey? Really? Don&#8217;t be that guy.</p>
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		<title>By: Casey</title>
		<link>http://www.thecontrarianmedia.com/2009/07/who-can-tell-the-singer-from-the-song/comment-page-1/#comment-4639</link>
		<dc:creator>Casey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jul 2009 14:49:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bob Dylan wrote propaganda songs? Propaganda songs for whom? One-eyed midget dwarfs on acid? Motorcycle Black Madonna Two-Wheeled Gypsy Queens? 

Check yo&#039;self, TerryB. His Bobness wrote ALOT of stuff, much of it esoteric symbolist gibberish.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bob Dylan wrote propaganda songs? Propaganda songs for whom? One-eyed midget dwarfs on acid? Motorcycle Black Madonna Two-Wheeled Gypsy Queens? </p>
<p>Check yo&#8217;self, TerryB. His Bobness wrote ALOT of stuff, much of it esoteric symbolist gibberish.</p>
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		<title>By: TerryB</title>
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		<dc:creator>TerryB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 09:35:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bob Dylan wrote propaganda songs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bob Dylan wrote propaganda songs.</p>
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		<title>By: Neil Cleary</title>
		<link>http://www.thecontrarianmedia.com/2009/07/who-can-tell-the-singer-from-the-song/comment-page-1/#comment-4634</link>
		<dc:creator>Neil Cleary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 01:56:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let me clarify myself, Nick. I&#039;m not pulling that tired old musical-superiority trip on rap, or metal, or dance or anything. I love rap -- RUN DMC&#039;s debut was my first record. And I&#039;m not begrudging the record industry their right to make money on any old flashy dross. I love that shit too. In fact, I&#039;m hard-pressed to believe ANY musical-superiority argument from anyone. So let&#039;s put that right out. This isn&#039;t about &quot;integrity&quot;. All I&#039;m doing is making sure we distinguish one form from another.

And with regard to authenticity: if you&#039;re responding to a back-story, you&#039;re responding to a context, not content. Again, nothing wrong with that, let&#039;s just be able to distinguish. A falsely-accused convict who&#039;s been imprisoned for 50 years can walk out of a jail and sing Row, Row, Row Your Boat and it might kill -- doesn&#039;t make it a great song. A great song can survive on a lyric sheet and a melody alone.

I&#039;m afraid however when you insist that artists &amp; repertoire be the same thing, you misunderstand the beauty of each. To paraphrase Mitch Hedberg: &quot;You come out to Hollywood as a comedian and everyone wants you to write. Can you write? Write me a screenplay. It&#039;s as if I work my ass off all my life to be the best cook I can be and then someone&#039;s like great, you&#039;re a cook. Can you farm?&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let me clarify myself, Nick. I&#8217;m not pulling that tired old musical-superiority trip on rap, or metal, or dance or anything. I love rap &#8212; RUN DMC&#8217;s debut was my first record. And I&#8217;m not begrudging the record industry their right to make money on any old flashy dross. I love that shit too. In fact, I&#8217;m hard-pressed to believe ANY musical-superiority argument from anyone. So let&#8217;s put that right out. This isn&#8217;t about &#8220;integrity&#8221;. All I&#8217;m doing is making sure we distinguish one form from another.</p>
<p>And with regard to authenticity: if you&#8217;re responding to a back-story, you&#8217;re responding to a context, not content. Again, nothing wrong with that, let&#8217;s just be able to distinguish. A falsely-accused convict who&#8217;s been imprisoned for 50 years can walk out of a jail and sing Row, Row, Row Your Boat and it might kill &#8212; doesn&#8217;t make it a great song. A great song can survive on a lyric sheet and a melody alone.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m afraid however when you insist that artists &#038; repertoire be the same thing, you misunderstand the beauty of each. To paraphrase Mitch Hedberg: &#8220;You come out to Hollywood as a comedian and everyone wants you to write. Can you write? Write me a screenplay. It&#8217;s as if I work my ass off all my life to be the best cook I can be and then someone&#8217;s like great, you&#8217;re a cook. Can you farm?&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Neil Cleary</title>
		<link>http://www.thecontrarianmedia.com/2009/07/who-can-tell-the-singer-from-the-song/comment-page-1/#comment-4633</link>
		<dc:creator>Neil Cleary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 01:24:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re right Rick, the old model definitely still survives. Still, across the board it&#039;s largely preferred that people write their own, or at least be &#039;involved&#039; in the writing of their material, the way The Matrix &quot;co-writes&quot; with Avril Lavigne. And I believe this valuing of personality above craft has even infected the old model of songwriting: writers are now hired to sound as shitty as every other amateur song on the radio. So now these writers get called great songwriters, when what they are is great hit-writers. And don&#039;t get me wrong, I love a hit. They&#039;re just not songs.

I second you on Christina too. But it&#039;s not a matter of not being talented with her, it&#039;s a matter of taste, ie singing every goddamn note to death. I was listening to Aretha Franklin today and was amazed at how simply and directly she sings. Then again, she had great songs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re right Rick, the old model definitely still survives. Still, across the board it&#8217;s largely preferred that people write their own, or at least be &#8216;involved&#8217; in the writing of their material, the way The Matrix &#8220;co-writes&#8221; with Avril Lavigne. And I believe this valuing of personality above craft has even infected the old model of songwriting: writers are now hired to sound as shitty as every other amateur song on the radio. So now these writers get called great songwriters, when what they are is great hit-writers. And don&#8217;t get me wrong, I love a hit. They&#8217;re just not songs.</p>
<p>I second you on Christina too. But it&#8217;s not a matter of not being talented with her, it&#8217;s a matter of taste, ie singing every goddamn note to death. I was listening to Aretha Franklin today and was amazed at how simply and directly she sings. Then again, she had great songs.</p>
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